Cybernoid I / Cybernoid II 'behind the notes' videos (2014) and the Lemon64 thread
Two short YouTube videos that play jeroen-tel's cybernoid and cybernoid-ii against the Turbo Assembler source they were typed into, and the forum thread that explains what is (and is not) being shown. The videos themselves are not in raw/; this page records their metadata and the thread.
Key claims#
- Video 1: Cybernoid I --behind the notes--, channel "demoscenes", 2014-02-13, 7 min 17 s, "Ever wanted to see how Jeroen Tel created the song…". Video 2: Jeroen Tel - Cybernoid II In Game --behind the notes--, 2014-07-29, 6 min 02 s, "Here we go with the sequel to one of the finest music ever written on the Commodore 64! … This is how Cybernoid II's soundtrack was made!"
- What they show, per spider-j (2014-03-08): "It's just a SID tune recording with the turbo assembler sourcecode of the player and the note/instrument tables." He asks whether this was the first tune with this player and notes "Didn't Tel just enter the tables (I thought Charles Deenen coded the player)?" — the source now on GitHub confirms both (s-realdmx-sid-players, musicfile).
- AD (2014-03-02): the coding skills on display "would be the coding tech skills from charles-deenen who did the maniacs-of-noise player routines". stu232: "Jeroen is a great musician, but he is no programmer. Deenen did all the maths, Jeroen played the notes."
- groepaz: "future composer is made from a ripped MON player" — Future Composer, the popular scene editor, descends from the MoN driver (forum claim; VGMPF's SIDId-style naming
MoN/FutureComposerin s-realdmx-sid-players's sister lists points the same way — unverified). - nonex: "It's interesting to think that plugging in the notes using a machine code monitor while the tune is playing off an interrupt (ala Hubbard) is a better situation than typing them silently into Turbo Assembler then assembling…" — the two pre-tracker workflows side by side (turbo-assembler, sid-player-routine).
- Side remarks: Martin Walker coded whole games (Hunter's Moon, Citadel); Tim Follin wrote his own routines; Paul Norman as a composer-coder; szu on the Cybernoid loading picture and tune as a memory.
Relevance to the wiki#
Visual evidence, with dates, for the MoN workflow — driver by Deenen, note tables by Tel, edited in Turbo Assembler — and pointers for anyone who wants to watch the tables scroll past; notes only, no technique details can be cited from the videos themselves.
Pages touched#
cybernoid · cybernoid-ii · jeroen-tel · charles-deenen · maniacs-of-noise · musicfile · turbo-assembler · sid-player-routine